Purgatory — Are Catholics Right?

This is a short, but time-sensitive post. I was listening to the Patrick Madrid Show on Immaculate Heart Radio this morning (Friday, June 23rd), and a caller asked about Purgatory. She wanted to know how to respond to a friend who was once Catholic, but now evangelical, and no longer believing in Purgatory.

Madrid quoted the standard apologetic verses such as 1 Corinthians 3:15 which, quite frankly, say nothing about Purgatory. Of course, he would typically answer that the Bible says nothing about the Trinity, either. I sent off an email to Patrick saying:

Brother, it seems to me that Catholics have to apply a forced interpretation of Scripture to make it say what it doesn’t even imply. You suggested that the caller ask her friend if he is perfectly clean to enter Heaven (Revelation 21:27). Thus the argument for Purgatory.

The implication is that we are all unclean; but Paul said some will endure the fire (their works, that is) and receive a reward. The apostle was speaking of crowns — not entry into Heaven. People will enter Heaven by the blood of Jesus though their works may be burned up. This says nothing about a soul being purified in a mythical Purgatory. Context, please.

Again, the faithful have been cleansed by the blood of Christ (1 John 1:7). I am clean to enter Heaven — not based on my works, but by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ though you disagree with this interpretation.

If you read this post in time you can hear the rebroadcast of this morning’s program tonight at 10 pm, Pacific. Patrick emailed me that he will discuss my points on Monday morning’s broadcast (6-9 am, Pacific).

For the purpose of context this is what Paul wrote:

Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw — each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire (1 Corinthians 3:12-15).

… and John in Revelation 21:27:

But nothing unclean will ever enter it (Heaven), nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

Patrick suggested that his caller ask her friend if he was clean enough to enter Heaven. The prompted response that he hopes to elicit is that no one is clean enough to enter Heaven, but this is a gross mishandling of the Word of God.

Madrid then cautioned his caller that her friend might answer with 1 John 1:7 …

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.

… but the friend would be incorrect, said Madrid, since Catholics teach that a saved person might die in an imperfect state thus in need of purifying.

Nowhere is this doctrine taught in Scripture … nowhere.

The following commentary on 1 Corinthians 3:15 reminds us that we can’t take the verse out of context.

Charles Ellicott

These words remind us that the whole passage, and especially the reference to fire, is to be regarded as metaphorical, and not to be understood in a literal and physical sense. Forgetting this, Roman divines have evolved from these words the doctrine of purgatory.

Matthew Poole

For the fire of purgatory, it is a fiction, and mere imaginary thing, and of no further significance than to make the pope’s chimney smoke.

Albert Barnes

Yet so as by fire — ὡς διὰ πυρός hōs dia puros. This passage has greatly perplexed commentators; but probably without any good reason. The apostle does not say that Christians will be doomed to the fires of purgatory; nor that they will pass through fire; nor that they will be exposed to pains and punishment at all.

I closed my email to Patrick saying:

Catholics apply the same meandering logic to most of their unique doctrines such as praying to Mary, and calling the Pope ‘Father’. It just doesn’t work.

I confess that my closing remarks were out-of-context, and unfair. I do not wish to start a fight with my Catholic brothers as readers of this blog know that I am especially kind to Catholics if only for the sake of unity.

My impression of Catholics and Protestants is from the perspective of the Jerusalem assembly 2000 years ago when there wasn’t a single Gentile in the church of Christ.

If you have further interest in this discussion please listen to the rebroadcast of this morning’s show, and try to catch Patrick’s response on Monday when he will address, what he calls, my incorrect interpretation.

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A Call to Prayer

A house divided against itself cannot stand. — Abraham Lincoln

Today, I want to address the escalating tensions that are rocking America. To my brothers and sisters in Christ who are apolitical I only ask that you hear me out. I promise to conclude this post with a spiritually relevant observation.

Readers of this blog know that I am a conservative. The radical left hates people like me. They hate my faith and they hate my politics. One of their weapons — quite effective, actually — is to simply smear the opposition. One way they do this is by hurling insults. If you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth so they label their opponents as racist, sexist, homophobic, and misogynist until it sticks in people’s minds and becomes their reality.

As I’ve noted before these tactics are right out of the leftist playbook, Rules for Radicals. The author, Saul Alinsky, influenced the politics of people like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton who wrote that conflict is the route to power.

This echoes Alinsky’s thoughts that a community organizer should be abrasive, inciting resentment and hostility, an agitator to the point of conflict.

The Democrat Party, at least in my lifetime, has adopted these principles in order to gain and hold power. They incite class warfare on a variety of fronts — sex, race, age, income and, more recently, gender identity. These tactics are intended to divide the country, and create a power base from which Democrats can rule in these Divided States of America.

A young woman, speaking on a university campus, said:

There will be casualties. Unfortunately, people must die in order to effect change.

I guess she took Obama’s change theme to the extreme. Christian, you can hide your head in the sand for so long, but this is the face of evil. This young woman is an Obama-baby who represents the base of the Democrat Party.

Have you heard of Antifa? DisruptJ20? DC Welcoming Committee?

Antifa (antifascist) is a worldwide movement that organizes protest marches against the establishment (Western, capitalist democracies). They are known for wearing masks and inciting violent resistance through a diversity of tactics. You saw them marching in front of the Trump hotel on Inauguration Day.

DisruptJ20 is an organization that pre-planned many of the nationwide marches against President Trump. (What appeared on the nightly news as spontaneous protests were events organized before Trump took the oath of office.)

DC Welcoming Committee is a branch of the national Welcoming Committee. With offices in cities across the country it is a LGBTQ activist organization that participated in the protest marches on Inauguration Day. That explains the gay protesters I saw kissing in front of the Trump International Hotel on Pennsylvania Ave.

Antifa and DisruptJ20 were involved in the violent protests at Berkeley which resulted in the cancellation of speeches by conservative pundits such as Milo Yiannopoulos (senior editor at the conservative Breitbart News).

Yiannopoulos was especially targeted because he is homosexual. Aren’t liberals the defenders of gay people? This is the deception that lies at the core of liberalism. If you are a conservative member of any one of the designated oppressed classes you are an even greater threat to the liberal agenda, and must be silenced.

Ask yourself this: Who are the fascists?

Recall Madonna’s profanity-laced speech at the Women’s March where she blurted out that she often thought of blowing up the White House. It was an inciteful thing to say prompting an investigation by the Secret Service and FBI.

More recently, Kathy Griffin made headlines for posting that very disturbing photo. (No further comment is necessary.)

Conservatives (and Christians) are excoriated for the most innocent of offenses. The double-standard and hypocrisy is numbing to my soul. Then Griffin had the gall to stage a photo-op with her lawyer claiming that she was the victim.

At the pre-election debate, Donald Trump was asked if he would accept the results of the election, and was crucified for his uncommitted response. Democrats have refused to accept that Donald Trump was elected President of the United States. They have behaved like temperamental infants, and will not be satisfied with anything less than impeachment.

For months the public has been fed a steady diet of anti-Trump rhetoric. It has become an obsession of the mainstream media to defame, belittle, libel, slander, malign, smear, vilify, besmirch, disparage, and discredit this President.

Hillary lost the election because of her policies, and in the end she resorted to mudslinging. The media picked up Clinton’s fumble, and has continued pushing the negative stereotype. Push the negative hard enough, taught Alinsky, and it becomes the reality.

Let’s stop here for a moment and consider these things in light of the shooting at the Republican softball practice. The shooter reportedly was a volunteer on the Bernie Sanders campaign. He posted anti-Trump propaganda on his Facebook page, and allegedly asked if the softball team was Democrat or Republican before opening fire.

There is a civil war (small letter “c”) raging in this nation. The Republicans didn’t start it, nor did the Christians. It is fueled and flamed by leftist activists who are intolerant of anyone who resists their imposition of an ideology that is anti-Christian, anti-Constitution, anti-capitalist, and anti-democratic.

The Democrat Party is complicit. The politics of division breeds discontent which is sometimes manifested in violent protest.

Young people, idealistic by nature, have been so indoctrinated by leftist ideology that they are emotionally incapable of even hearing contrary views. I fear for a nation where colleges and universities have to provide safe-rooms (stocked with Play-Doh, crayons, coloring books, and bubbles) to sooth the angst of students who panic whenever they hear the name Donald Trump.

The Spiritual Lesson

I urge you, first of all, to pray for all people. Ask God to help them; intercede on their behalf, and give thanks for them. Pray this way for kings and all who are in authority so that we can live peaceful and quiet lives marked by godliness and dignity (1 Timothy 2:1-2).

I did not vote for Barack Obama, and disagreed with his policies. He was wrong on health care, abortion, and gay marriage. I did, however, pray for President Obama (as I do for President Trump.) It is the Christian’s duty to pray for our leaders.

We are not like the zealots who expected Jesus Christ to take up arms against the Romans. We are non-violent and peacefully resist. We do not wear masks, throw bottles, break storefront windows, overturn cars, nor set fire to emergency vehicles. We respect the office of the President — as Kathy Griffin once lectured Elisabeth Hasselbeck.

And we pray.


May you pour out your Holy Spirit upon this nation for restoration and revival.

May you strengthen our families, and protect our children.

May you heal this nation of its spiritual ills which are manifested in social strife, cultural malaise, moral decline, political violence, and financial bankruptcy.

May you lift up America unto Thy glory, and as a witness unto all the nations.

In the blessed name of Jesus.


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Luther — Sinner or Saint?

In this anniversary year of the Reformation (31 October 1517), I’ve posted several articles examining Roman Catholicism through a somewhat apologetic lens.

Today, I wanted to discuss those obvious traditions that Protestants find so … unfamiliar:

  • Making confession to a priest
  • Calling the Pope, Father
  • Transubstantiation
  • Praying to Mary
  • Purgatory

However, I posted a rather lengthy comment on a previous article discussing some things I was saving for a future post, and feel it appropriate to share those thoughts in blog format. The comments are relevant to this series of articles on the post-Reformation schism that exists between Catholics and Protestants. (Following the reprint I will have some closing thoughts.)

I take no sides here except as a disciple of Jesus Christ.

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Of course, my prejudice — for what it’s worth — is that I relate the Holocaust to German nationalism fueled by the anti-Semitic overtones of the Reformation. For me, this is a very sensitive issue not understood by the Protestant laity which holds Martin Luther in high regard.

When Luther went to Rome, ostensibly seeking reform, he initially said nothing about the peculiar traditions of the Catholic Church — many of which were gleaned from the Apocryphal books written during the Intertestamental period. For example, the German church profited handsomely from the indulgences paid by the wealthy aristocracy. Luther wanted to keep that money in Germany, and out of the hands of Rome.

On a related issue, Luther saw the banking system as a threat to German autonomy. The bankers, by chance, happened to be Jews who were profiting (across Europe) as capitalist financiers.

Luther’s mission was this: Liberate Germany from the Catholic Pope and Jewish bankers.

Much has been written about Luther’s anti-Semitic nationalism, but this history is unknown, or not taught in the Protestant Church. We must understand Luther’s motivations in order to judge the righteousness of his movement.

Reviewing Martin Luther’s book, On the Jews and Their Lies, author Jim Walker commented:

Although Luther did not invent anti-Jewishness, he promoted it to a level never before seen in Europe. Luther bore the influence of his upbringing and from anti-Jewish theologians such as Lyra, Burgensis, (and John Chrysostom, before them). But Luther’s 1543 book, “On the Jews and Their Lies” took Jewish hatred to a new level when he proposed to set fire to their synagogues and schools, to take away their homes, forbade them to pray or teach, or even to utter God’s name. Luther wanted to “be rid of them” and requested that the government and ministers deal with the problem. He requested pastors and preachers to follow his example of issuing warnings against the Jews. He goes so far as to claim that “We are at fault in not slaying them” for avenging the death of Jesus Christ.

So vehemently did Luther speak against the Jews, and the fact that Luther represented an honorable and admired Christian to Protestants, that his written words carried the “memetic” seeds of anti-Jewishness up until the 20th century and into the Third Reich. Luther’s Jewish eliminationist rhetoric virtually matches the beliefs held by Hitler and much of the German populace in the 1930s.

Luther unconsciously set the stage for the future of German nationalistic fanaticism.

Walker cited author William L. Shirer (The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich) who wrote that Luther created a new Protestant vision of Christianity by a fervent German nationalism.

Author Eric W. Gritsch (Martin Luther’s Anti-Semitism: Against His Better Judgment) wrote that the “missionary Luther” was a propagandist for German nationalism — a political reformer whose patriotism should have created a substitute for the rule of Roman Catholicism. He further wrote that German nationalism, unconditional patriotism and conditional theology propelled the Reformation.

Hitler called Martin Luther one of the greatest reformers. Against the historical backdrop one might doubt the righteousness of Luther’s reforms.

Here’s what I think.

First, let me say that the Catholic Church is not without sin. Having said that, I believe that confusion and division are from Satan. Nothing has caused so much confusion and division than the Protestant-Catholic split.

I believe that Luther’s theological differences were intended to conceal his nationalistic intentions. He was politically motivated to break from Rome, and his 95 Theses served as a formal declaration of German independence.

He split the Church in two, and the Church has suffered consequentially.

Luther’s theology, I believe, does rise to the level of heresy. On Sola Fide, alone, he mishandles the word of God (if only to incite disagreement with Rome).

This one and firm rock, which we call the doctrine of justification is the chief article of the whole Christian doctrine, which comprehends the understanding of all godliness … if this article stands, the Church stands; if it falls, the Church falls. — Martin Luther

Catholics do not disagree that we are saved by faith. The issue, as I pointed out in the article, is the Book of James (see notes). Luther didn’t like what it said so he disputed its canonicity. He also didn’t like Hebrews and Revelation because they were too Jewish.

I look at the fruit of the Reformation and I see the Holocaust, and tens of thousands of Protestant Churches that teach every kind of oddball theology.

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On that last comment about oddball theology I’m reminded of the Quaker Church that abolished the sacraments of baptism and Communion because the Bible teaches that we are not saved by works.

There are many books and articles that discuss what motivated Martin Luther. Indeed, Luther’s own writings are sufficient to cast doubt on whether he was inspired by God, or his own personal interests. The Reformation must be examined in light of this knowledge. For example, following are excerpts from Luther’s book, Of Jews and Their Lies:

My advice, as I said earlier, is: First, that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire. Second, that all their books — their prayer books, their Talmudic writings, also the entire Bible — be taken from them, not leaving them one leaf, and that these be preserved for those who may be converted. Third, that they be forbidden on pain of death to praise God, to give thanks, to pray, and to teach publicly among us and in our country. Fourth, that they be forbidden to utter the name of God within our hearing. For we cannot with a good conscience listen to this or tolerate it.

He who hears this name [God] from a Jew must inform the authorities, or else throw sow dung at him when he sees him and chase him away.

Burn their synagogues. Forbid them all that I have mentioned above. Force them to work and treat them with every kind of severity, as Moses did in the desert and slew three thousand. If that is no use, we must drive them away like mad dogs, in order that we may not be partakers of their abominable blasphemy and of all their vices, and in order that we may not deserve the anger of God and be damned with them. I have done my duty. Let everyone see how he does his. I am excused.

If I had to baptize a Jew, I would take him to the bridge of the Elbe, hang a stone round his neck and push him over with the words I baptize thee in the name of Abraham.

The Jews deserve to be hanged on gallows seven times higher than ordinary thieves.

It is not difficult to understand why a son of Abraham would be suspicious — even afraid — of that kind of Christianity. Compare the writings of Paul with Luther, and ask yourself which man was inspired by God. The greater question is this: What is the Church of Christ?

If the Pope is the Man of Sin, and Martin Luther an anti-Jewish nationalist then where does the disciple of Christ go to worship?

Hint: God must be worshiped in spirit and in truth (John 4:19-24).


In context of the previous article (wherein I discussed the doctrine of justification), the following quotes (intended to refute James 2:24) are presented to support my claim that Luther’s theology was heretical.

It is more important to guard against good works than against sin. [1]

Good works are bad and are sin like the rest. [2]

There is no scandal greater, more dangerous, more venomous, than a good outward life, manifested by good works and a pious mode of life. That is the grand portal, the highway that leads to damnation. [3]

1. Trischreden, Wittenberg Edition, Vol. VI., p. 160.
2. Denifle’s Luther et Lutheranisme, Etude Faite d’apres les sources. Translation by J. Paquier (Paris, A. Picard, 1912-13), VOl. III, pg. 47.
3. Ibid, pg. 128.

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